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Grateful Dead Live at Palace of Fine Arts on 1973-11-28


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Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Palace of Fine Arts
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Soundboard

Notes

Seastones collection: 4 disc set includes 3 separate sessions labelled as 11/28/73,
plus 6/6/75; misc. filler bits; via D. Finney

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Reviewer: ScubaGeek - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 14, 2015
Subject: Phil and Ned ARE on the Palace Of Fine Arts recording
According to this website (which apparently has Ned' input): http://nedbase.blogspot.com/

Phil and Ned absolutely did participate in the Palace Of Fine Arts concert. Here's what Nedbase has to say about it: "Billed as "Experiments in Quadrophonic Sound" with Jerry Garcia and Mickey Hart; however, Ned performed the entire concert (although not on stage), and Phil did the live quad mix. The booking and publicity started before all had committed to the concert - this explains why there has been some confusion as to who played and how this related to "Seastones". Included as part of this show was the first "Seastones" live/tape performance in quad. This was a partial one, using pre-recorded "Seastones" tracks and the live musicians' performance, and some other pre-recorded tapes by Ned. Ned played an Arp Odyssey for most of the show seated at the mix board centered in the audience with Phil next to him mixing in quad."

It's a great recording. I wish there were more music available from Ned as I love the Seastones album and his contributions to the Dead's shows in 74.

Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 21, 2012
Subject: "Seastones" 1-3 NOT "Seastones"
The first two hours, ten minutes or so - "Seastones" 1-3, was a show put on by Jerry and Mickey Hart at the Palace of Fine Arts 11/28/73. Poster link - http://www.dead.net/sites/deadbeta.rhino.com/files/images/19731128_0548.jpg

No Ned Lagin, no Phil as far as I can tell - it seems like, after having listened to the first three 'movements', that it's just Jerry and Mickey, and man, this is hard-freaking-core. It's like two and a half hours of Space, really - consistently a lot more listenable as abstract music that many of the actual Seastones jams they did in '74.

Absolutely give this is a listen - it's not "work" at all - totally balls-out, unapologetic psychedelia.

The 6/6/75 stuff is even more interesting, and apparently this is indeed Ned, Phil, plus Mickey and Jerry. The tracks that make up this night are on a warbly old sbd, and aren't terribly clear, but who cares! Exciting, experimental, an hour-long space 'movement', droned-out in the background throughout the entire piece.
Reviewer: cosmicharIie - - December 1, 2012
Subject: check out this MOTB of 11/28/73 at LL
Seeeing as the SB is here for streaming, can some experienced soul upload this MOTB? It's over at shnflac with a seeder. It would be grate to be able to DL it here! This is some of the info >>

MOTB Release: 0153 16/44.1
Release Date: 2010-08-03
Band: Jerry Garcia & Mickey Hart
Date: 1973-11-28 (Wednesday)
Venue: Palace of Fine Arts Theatre
Location: San Francisco, CA...

Disc One
Set 1:
d1t01: Adventures In The Deep Noodle >
d1t02: Orgasmic Plasma Shift >
d1t03: The Spaghedeity's Revenge >
d1t04: Why Thank You, Yes, I Think I Will >

Disc Two
d2t01: Calabi-Yau Space >
d2t02: White Hole >
d2t03: Aggressive Precdicate Pushdown >
d2t04: Mama Cried >
d2t05: Franks 'n Beans >

Disc Three
d3t01: Wingteam Central >
d3t02: Dark Glass Broken >
d3t03: My Ass Hurts
Reviewer: njpg - favoritefavoritefavorite - November 29, 2012
Subject: Weird stuff.
You have to be in the right mood for it, I guess.
Reviewer: jjf47 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 28, 2012
Subject: This is pretty damn cool, man!
From Seastones to Dark Star to the end, it just seems like one long strange trip!
Reviewer: birdsgosouth - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 1, 2005
Subject: More than historical interest
I don't know, this is an early seastones performance, you can't compare it to the record at all, which is a precisely and painfully constructed piece of music. Come on. Definitely check out at least the Seastones 1 section. Not unlike the cosmic explosion that occurs "between" Seastones and Dark Star in 10.18.74 or Seastones and Eyes on 9.11.74.
Reviewer: L. Rosley - favoritefavorite - August 29, 2005
Subject: Historical interest
It's interesting that this is here, but it is not anywhere near as good as the released Seastones album. I bought Seastones in the 1970's and thought it was great--for a while. Even the released Seastones doesn't hold up to repeated listening the way so much of the Dead does.
Reviewer: bearknugg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 18, 2005
Subject: YES!
I've looked for this stuff for a long time, being a huge Ned and T.C. fan, I don't know which I'm more excited about, Tarot or Seastones. This music is why I listen to the Grateful Dead (and their many side projects). Get this now if you love pure mind melting space, chaos, and gorgeous musical meditations.
To answer the questions regarding to the Tarot outtakes, they are from the T.C. album "Tarot Touch" which incorporates themes from the score of his musical "Tarot". The personnel includes T.C., Garcia, Lesh, Hart, and richard Green. I hope this helps - check out p.441 in the Deadheads Taping Compendium Vol.1 for more details.
Reviewer: bearknugg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 18, 2005
Subject: YES!
I've looked for this stuff for a long time, being a huge Ned and T.C. fan, I don't know which I'm more excited about, Tarot or Seastones. This music is why I listen to the Grateful Dead (and their many side projects). Get this now if you love pure mind melting space, chaos, and gorgeous musical meditations.
To answer the questions regarding to the Tarot outtakes, they are from the T.C. album "Tarot Touch" which incorporates themes from the score of his musical "Tarot". The personnel includes T.C., Garcia, Lesh, Hart, and richard Green. I hope this helps - check out p.441 in the Deadheads Taping Compendium Vol.1 for more details.
Reviewer: michaelcoughlin - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 1, 2005
Subject: Any hardcore Deadhead must get this
This is pretty far out stuff here. Its a lot of spacey feedback and expiermental stuff. FROM THE DEADHEADS TAPING COMPENDIUM VOL. 1:

-Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Ned Lagin, Phil Lesh performing under the name "Seastones."

-Tape was mixed by Phil Lesh.

-"...At times, it seems like the middle of a bad science fiction movie; at others one can envision moonwalking on a rainbow..."


Pretty cool just becuase its rare and different from what came out of this period in the Deads history.


-Mike :-)

PS-- Can anyone tell me more about the Tarots outtakes? Whats that all about? The book says nothing about it.
Reviewer: jbphburg - favoritefavorite - June 1, 2005
Subject: Huh?
Well, it is pretty relaxing and all, but I assume this isn't the GD :)
Reviewer: Pookietooth - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 10, 2005
Subject: Whoah
Total meltdown music here. Turn off the lights and prepare for a nightmare.
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